Tuesday, March 2, 2010

In God we trust. (Or at least we used to)

I know I lose track of my blog very easily, but I’m fairly certain that this week is a blog about my opinion on a topic I’ve read about..? Maybe???

Well anyway a topic that brought itself to my attention recently was an argument about not teaching evolution in high school, at least not in a required class. Naturally this person felt that they would rather learn about creationism, or not spend their time in a class discussing any of this altogether. So, as I was pondering what on Earth I would write about tonight, the first topic that caught my eye on the ICC digital library, was Creationism in big bold letters. It seemed almost magical.
I myself went through the same thought process in high school, especially in biology. I remember doing really well the first semester of biology, learning about all the animal kingdoms and bacteria and heredity and stuff, I really enjoyed that class (and I think Tyler and I know Steven were there with me). But then in second semester, not only did I get stuck with a teacher who “doesn’t know how to teach” as any high school student would say, but also got stuck learning the theory of evolution from this woman. That was far from enjoyable, and probably one of the reasons I felt that learning about evolution was such a waste. But nevertheless, I would still align myself with those of the opinion that evolution should not be taught in school. Not that I believe it shouldn’t be taught entirely, its probably right about most of what its saying, but I find it hard to believe I’m related to a monkey. I just don’t see the resemblance. It’s like comparing Macs to PC’s. Yeah they kinda look alike, but really????
Inversely, the argument to this that pro-evolution advocates have brought up is that creationism should be taught in a religion class, not a science class. But what high school you know of has a religion class? The closest thing I have ever gotten to taking a religion class in high school was the week of discussing ancient religions in world history, and that was far from enlightening. (Eric was there he can vouch for me)
This also reminds me of another discussion I had once, in a Sunday school class I believe, and the speaker that week brought up a very thought provoking point. We were discussing the old monasteries and the origins of the Christian church, and how most universities were founded by the church, most philosophers were Christians, and it was they who advanced science. Why then has science turned its back on that which propelled it further? Science and religion were two peas of the same pod, the why, and the how. Or rather the how and the other how. “Whatever it is, however it works, God ordained it to be this way.” “I’m alive because my heart is pumping blood through a very intricate series of veins throughout my body in conjunction with my lungs and signals from my brain, and you’re telling me this was all by chance?” “
We have a separation of church and state, but not of science and state. If you aren’t allowed to teach Creationism, you should not be allowed to teach the theory of evolution. And I agree that Creationism does not fit in a science class, it should be a class all on its own. So maybe we should reach halfway, and allow public schools to have an alternative religion class which could discuss this? I know that this will never happen because there are so many different religions in America, but it just doesn’t feel right that a country founded on the Christian ideals should turn so far from them without even the option of studying this through our schools.

PS this is a lot longer than my average blog, yet it took half as long to write

4 comments:

  1. You say that you enjoyed the part of the semester that dealt with the different kingdoms and phyla but do you realize evolution explains the intricate hierarchy that creates the organization present in taxology? To answer your question about why science is moving away religion. This is due to the fact that religion and science are two opposite entities in reason. Religion is all based off the idea of faith and irrational thinking, while science is based off of evidence and logic. The two entities cannot simply be mixed together due to the different ways conclusions are formulated. The reason why evolution is taught in public schools today is because it's a proven scientific theory and all the physical evidence we see when looking at genetics and the fossil record point to evolution as the answer. The reason why we don't have creationism in public schools is because it implies a state religion and most of us all know that the Constitution strictly states that the state may not create a state religion. Not to mention there is no scientific validity behind creationism so therefore teaching it in a science classroom would be ludicrous in the first place.

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  2. I'll have to disagree with some of what you said, Tyler, if for no other reason than for the heck of it.

    Religion is not "irrational thinking," there's no evidence to support that claim. In fact, you move forward to contradict it. Science is based off of tested hypotheses that have lead to various conclusions. Science and religion can and do exist together perfectly. It's almost like you have the answer key right in front of you, but you have to do the work to find out how to get to that point. The vehicle that is used to get from the beginning to that answer is science. Science has proven time and time again many religious truths. Science is also based highly on faith. It is based on the faith, or as those in the scientific community call it, the "assumption," that nature is ordered and operates as such. Where science attempts to stray from these constants, the results are returned as inconclusive, if they even get that far. Sure, there are some exceptions in science, but those exceptions remain constant every time that they are tested. Therefore, aren't the core values of both religion and science the study of absolutes, and that there is absolutely no room for relativism? Some will still argue that faith is foolish, because unlike in typical science, there is no visual or solid evidence. Such a dogmatic and contradictory double-standard to establish. Where would science be if it hadn't tested what it could not see simply because it couldn't be seen?

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  3. THIS is the kind of thinking that I hoped the blog would accomplish.

    This science/religion thing, or more specifically, the faith/learning relationship is one of the largest studies of my life.

    Gentlemen, I'd love to sit down with all three of you and listen to your thoughts and share mine.

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  4. Tyler.
    The constitution says a lot of things, but that doesn't seem to matter anymore

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